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Consistently use 'this International Standard'. #1380

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@Eelis Eelis commented Jan 18, 2017

For consistency with all other occurrences.

A related question is whether all occurrences of "this Standard" should really say "this International Standard". (IMHO saying the latter over and over sounds pointless and pompous, but if it's to satisfy some legal requirement, perhaps we ought to do it consistently.)

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Yes, we want to say "this International Standard". Always. (We're not mentioning it too often, so it's ok to be formally correct in all cases.)

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tkoeppe commented Jan 18, 2017

Either seems fine ("this Standard" or "this International Standard"); you guys figure out which one you want, and leave a message when it's ready.

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Eelis commented Jan 18, 2017

I'll update the patch to make it long form everywhere :)

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jensmaurer commented Jan 18, 2017

The ISO Directives Part 2, section 3.1.4, say that "International Standard" refers to a standard issued by ISO or IEC, as opposed to any random standard. That, to me, is a clear indication we should not use simply "standard", which has a broader definition.

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Eelis commented Jan 18, 2017

@jensmaurer Cool, thanks for looking it up! Patch amended.

@Eelis Eelis changed the title Consistently say 'this Standard' (not 'the Standard') and use capitalization. Consistently use 'this International Standard'. Jan 18, 2017
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Looks good to me.

Leaving a message for @tkoeppe, as requested.

@tkoeppe tkoeppe merged commit 94c7fdf into cplusplus:master Jan 18, 2017
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tkoeppe commented Jan 18, 2017

Thanks. @jensmaurer, would you mind adding a note to the wiki about this so we remember in the future?

@Eelis Eelis deleted the standard branch January 18, 2017 22:30
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@tkoeppe: Done.

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timsong-cpp commented Jan 18, 2017

@CaseyCarter yesterday pointed to ISO/IEC directives part 2 §10.6 "References in a document to itself" regarding a similar issue I reported for the Ranges TS:

For an individual document, the form "this document" shall be used.

This is a change from the sixth edition (whose §6.6.7.2 says that "this International Standard" shall be used) and is explicitly called out in the foreword of the seventh edition of the directives.

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Eelis commented Jan 18, 2017

@timsong-cpp Ah damn, I wish you'd been here half an hour earlier :)

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tkoeppe commented Jan 18, 2017

Well, it's still an improvement over the status quo ante, and presumably we'd never even have heard of this discrepancy if it hadn't been for this PR.

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