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[iostream.forward.overview] Notezilla #494

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jwakely opened this issue May 6, 2015 · 7 comments
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[iostream.forward.overview] Notezilla #494

jwakely opened this issue May 6, 2015 · 7 comments
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jwakely commented May 6, 2015

The LWG chair requests that an editorial assistant with library knowledge takes a look at the monster note in 27.3 [iostream.forward], which has been sleeping somewhere deep in the ocean since the '98 standard.

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tkoeppe commented Dec 14, 2016

Could you clarify which note you have in mind? Is it all of [iostream.forward.overview]? @jensmaurer, does the issue description need to be updated?

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jwakely commented Dec 14, 2016

Ah yes, there's a new stable name thanks to #1231

Yes, the note in question is the one that now forms the entirety of [iostream.forward.overview] - title updated.

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jwakely commented Dec 14, 2016

The problem is that 27.3.2 is nothing but a huge note, so the entire subclause is non-normative.

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Right, but what's the problem? In other places, we have the intro text as "normative" text without differentiation. Here, we have it in a nice note. We could split the note in two to split off p9, which is a different topic than the intro in p1-p8. Other than killing the note entirely (at least p1-p8), I have no idea where to go here.

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jwakely commented Dec 14, 2016

I agree that p9 definitely belongs in a note. Arguably the rest could be normative text, even though it doesn't say anything of substance. It would be consistent with other library clauses to have that introductory text as normative (non-note) wording. Would making non-normative wording normative be editorial though? Strictly speaking, probably not.
I don't know how strongly @mclow feels about it, but I opened this issue in response to LWG's bewilderment at finding such a big note.

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@jwakely: As long as the effect of the standard's words doesn't change, it's editorial fair game, as far as I understand. So, we could editorially turn the first part into normative text (as long as it's semantically correct).

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sentences to normative text.

Fixes #494.
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